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Feb. 26th, 2003 05:01 pm
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I read this and couldn't stop giggling. I couldn't help but pass it on to those of you that haven't seen it.

The Saddam and George show

Date: 2003-02-26 09:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adders.livejournal.com
Things like that bother rather than amuse me. Sure, take the piss out of Bush, but don't skate over the fact that Saddam is a mass-murdering madman and paint him in a relatively good light. Bush may not be the good guy in this mess, but Saddam is very certainly a bad guy.

Date: 2003-02-26 09:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cookwitch.livejournal.com
Thanks John! They're both crazy. That's my take on it anyway. Can't we get them on to Celebrity Deathmatch or something?

Date: 2003-02-26 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ephraim.livejournal.com
Hmmmm...
I certainly didn't read Saddam as being painted in a good light in that article. I merely found it all exceedingly amusing, and a nice piece of satire. If I think too hard about what is going on in the world atm, it makes me despair. So, a little light relief is very welcome.

It's not meant seriously, so you should perhaps not let it bother you too much.

Date: 2003-02-26 09:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] adders.livejournal.com
If it had been a more accurate satire of both of them, then I'd have found it funny. It's not, though, it's a satire of Bush which ignores Hussein. Lim, on-sided satire is not satire, it's polemic disguised with a thin veneer of humouir. And besides, Saddam is not a man I find it easy to laugh about.

Hell, this situation is not an easy one to laugh about. This one article happened to push my buttons on some stupid ways the anti-war brigade act. I'm sure there are plenty of equally lame attempts of humour out there from the pro-war brigade. I'm just too pissed off with the Mail, Sun and Telegraph to find it right now.

The Times and the Indy until they piss me off too...

Date: 2003-02-26 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrph.livejournal.com
Personally, I thought it was a fairly accurate skewer of Saddam's style of speech, and certainly not too positive about him. I mean, "I've tested them myself, and we don't have any"?

The only person who wasn't victimised to some extent was Stilgoe.

Still, ymmv.

Date: 2003-02-26 09:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captainweasel.livejournal.com
*grin* I still like the option of getting Bush and Saddam to settle the matter in a One on One Duel...

Just for the record I think Saddam is an evil man who shouldn't be running a country, but i wouldn't trust Bush and his crew to change a lightbulb let alone a regime...

Date: 2003-02-26 09:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cookwitch.livejournal.com
I did like the bit about Saddam not having any weapons but if he did they wouldn't reach the target as he'd tested them himself. It kind of follows his reactions rather closely.

I've spent weeks/months being alternately scared and concerned and fearful about what's going to happen. Now I find myself laughing rather too loudly at light war-related humour in the subconscious but vain attempt to make it all go away.

I still think this one was funny though. :)

Date: 2003-02-26 10:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captainweasel.livejournal.com
It's an odd situation, and almost farcical in places... they know he had biologial and chemical weapons, as they sold them to him and saw him use them... and they know he had longer range missiles...
He's got to prove he's destroyed them in an effective manner - which for chem / bio stuff means with no trace left. How do you prove that? *shakes head* it's all getting dangerous and silly at once

Date: 2003-02-26 10:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] probablyscotty.livejournal.com
Bush and Saddam in a one on one duel?

*Ahem* You miss the American invention of the term "friendly fire"? Saddam wouldn't even need to get out of bed.

Date: 2003-02-26 10:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captainweasel.livejournal.com
hmmm... it would be rather amusing to see Bush accidentally stab himself in the face live on CNN...

though to be cynical, 'friendly fire' is usually when the Americans accidentally kill British/Canadian/other troops on the ground - it's one of the troubles of the whole culture of 'live/ up to the minute' coverage that War ceases to be a Distant Clash of Thunder and becomes ruptured intestines bleeding in your living room, so you can't have good old american troops dying - have to get someone else to take the casualties while you stand off with Cruise missiles / Stealth bombers / VerySmall (tm) Nukes etc...

One of the things that worries me about the coming war is that they'll likely be a LOT of urban fighting, with unclear boarders, unfriendly locals and (possibly) mixed forces... which is a recipe for disaster - they'll either take loads of casualties or have to bomb the place flat...

Re:

Date: 2003-02-26 10:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] probablyscotty.livejournal.com
And they'll bomb the place flat and recoup expenditure from the oil that they're not interested in and are going to use any money from to rebuild Iraq, honest guv'nor.

It's unpopular enough already without taking casualties on the ground, so it'll be a repeat of before, with no mention of numbers of enemy casualties, cos that would upset folks back home.

Lots of big bombs and minimal ground troop involvement, unless and atrocity happens that riles the public enough to support all out war.

Date: 2003-02-26 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captainweasel.livejournal.com
I think they'll make a lot more of their 'Surgical' strikes and 'Smart' bombs to try and downplay the fact they're blowing up loads of people...
I just hope they're not dumb enough to use the 'mini-nukes' they're talking about making for 'bunker busting' or destroying 'weapons of mass destruction'

Date: 2003-02-26 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cookwitch.livejournal.com
I seem to rememeber a certain Mr Bush saying after 11/9 that Osama Bin Laden was their number one priority, that he wouldn't rest until the man had been caught/killed/squished whatever. Amazing how, over a year on, old Bin Hidin' is no longer even on the political agenda. Strange how a war detracts from other less successful enterprises...

Date: 2003-02-27 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] captainweasel.livejournal.com
didn't Bin laden have kidney failure or something? By now he's either dead in cave somewhere or hiding in a private hospital somewhere as "Mr Smith"...
He is a CIA trained multi millionaire, after all.
11/9 hurt America really badly and they're looking to lash out and hurt someone in revenge - they never caught Bin Laden, so they have no sense of closure from blowing up Afganistan and can easily transfer that anger onto Iraq.
I'm just worried that Bush 'll introduce a "National Hate" day on 11/9 where people scream in anger, rage and frustration and images of Bin Laden...
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Date: 2003-02-27 03:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cookwitch.livejournal.com
The hatred against people who even look like Muslims has already started. I found a friend of mine in the USA saying the other day that she'd seen a group of Muslim women in her store and wished that they'd 'just go home' and 'what use are they to anyone' because 'they don't contribute anything at all.'.

I told her she scared me and to please not speak like that again, at least not to me. Not every Muslim is a terrorist, as indeed not every white person is a Christian kind of thing. I had enough racism growing up, I didn't need to hear it from the mouth of a friend.

Date: 2003-02-26 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cookwitch.livejournal.com
I seem to remember a certain Mr Bush saying after 11/9 that Osama Bin Laden was their number one priority, that he wouldn't rest until the man had been caught/killed/squished whatever. Amazing how, over a year on, old Bin Hidin' is no longer even on the political agenda. Strange how a war detracts from other less successful enterprises...

Date: 2003-02-26 11:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cookwitch.livejournal.com
Oops. Double post. Sorry!

*blush*

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